When studying language development in the context of natural evolution, I took a look at Greek logic, or logos. When I arrived at ancient Athens, I found I could not circumvent Plato's brick wall, which, to most of us, manifests has his Republic: the blueprint for Western Civilization. At the time, I felt foolish not knowing this obvious fact, that Plato designed our society and its psychology as being egotistical (whereas Joey Ramone apparently designed our current rebellious individuality, according to a DJ).
Note about the dialectic/Socratic method and education: there is sometimes a perception of free will in education (but not in didactic) that defines perception as potential deception. There is no truth, but only perception, because the reality of education is a desire for the synthesis of specific ideas, usually within the scope of the individual professor's worldview.
Liberation is personal, it means "quieting the voices." Perception is what we see, and in the case of academic education it is dialectical -- reality is that the perception is a deception (either rational reduction or individual worldview and can cannot possibly "truth"). Going beyond the reality that the deception is in control of perception means escaping the dialectic, that is to say, escaping the metacogntive programming, or, quite realistically, "quieting the voices."
Suppressing the "Current Dialectic: Occupy Critical Inquiry."
- OpEdNews was the first to, with long emails telling me how ignorant I am and telling me only Marx understood capital and the dialectic
- DMOZ rejected it
- Daily Koz eventually blocked my account over anti-socratic viewsbut not my discussion about Isreal, Aaron Beck, and Metacognition, which was attacked by "troll bashers"
- Wictionary "boss" deleted early drafts while pretending they didn't (breaking a good many wiki rules, and had to put it back)
Comments from FB draft release:
Given Britannia's post (from Korea), I wonder "what if there was no Academy? No Socrates, Plato, Aristotle? I think (as a phenomenologist) that the ("phenomic") result would be that an Academy would have been formed by others using similar techniques. Support for this comes from the Confucian school that was so far away from Greece and culturally so different (filial-societal rather than individualist-egotist) yet formed a very similar culture base with a dialogue method that is sometimes called dialectical with far-reaching effects--and even frustrations--that parallel the West.
Then there is the question of Alexander the Great whom Plato apparently trashes as a democratic (anarchistic) degenerate --is the Forum of Athens the real Western Civilization as a natural evolution of the natural society? The Aristocracy/Oligarchy is forced to accommodate natural society for fear of "cooking the goose that lays the golden eggs" even in the face of mechanization and now slavery-leveraging globalism. At what point society has nothing to lose, it rebels violently with bourgeois support--a phenomena successfully noted by communists and other rebels who used (and still use) the dialectic to trick into thinking revolution is socialist when it is, in fact, Platonic, and they, as counter-revolutionary the middle class bourgeoisie democrats, are eventually all killed along with millions of peasants.
If so, then, the great civilizer is in fact Alexander with his (hypothetical) attempt to pass power to the poor, perhaps by outlawing slavery (IF Stone's Trial of Socrates suggests this). If this is correct, then civilization (for lack, now, of a better word) is about reducing rules rather than by creating them--just as Jesus when he denounced slavery while attempting to moderate the Zealots of his time by reducing the Jewish rule-set from 750+ to a handful. He (the human rather than Son of God) could not have known he would create the most popular religion of all time using a message of Love, Forgiveness, and Fewer Rules: anarchism (which democracy in Plato's view). Likewise Sophocles' described Oedipus' over-civilization as his path to barbarism when he killed his father and raped his mother; Athens was done with the dialectic long before Socrates and Plato were born.
Interesting is that Athenian democracy was at sea for a time; after a particular defeat to Sparta, only the Athenian navy was remained democratic, which is another problem for Plato. Plato promotes his fascistic single-person control by saying every captain has to control the sailors when in fact, many successful vessels actually practised democracy including the famous Canadian racing-fishing schooner Bluenose.
Wiki reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato's_five_regimes